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Initial polls are just coming in, but it looks like a huge win for Hillary Clinton in West Virginia. The bastard mainstream media is already spinning it as a "symbolic victory." Screw the media, I say. One all the numbers are in, I'll see exactly how much Obama's .25% lead in the popular vote has shrunk. There are five more primary elections remaining (four states and one commonwealth). The arrogant Mr. O will surely be ignoring these as well because he is under the delusion that he has already won.

So sorry, Mr. "Hope and Change," but it's not over until all the votes are tallied. You'll just have to wait like the rest of us.

Date: 2008-05-14 05:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] derekcfpegritz.livejournal.com
She's already lost the nomination, sadly. Even though I'm 100% an O'Bama man, I find this whole "superdelegate" thing to be utter bullshit. The popular vote should be the only vote-count that matters. Having "superdelegates" is precisely equivalent to saying some people are more equal than others--which is a sentiment I normally support (some people are just better than others, period)...but do you become a superdelegate by working for it? Well, yes, in a way. But the way you work for it is you kiss a LOT of ass, and as a reward for being a complete brown-noser in the Democratic Party, you get Extra Clout(tm). That is sheer bullshit. I would normally expect that kind of crap from the Republican Party--the ultimate good ol' boys gang--but, man, I'm growing more and more disillusioned by the Democratic Party every day. If McCain were to grow some fucking balls and step up to the plate and say, "I am going to do my best to clear the name of the Republican Party and bring back the heyday of Reaganite Republicanism," I'd vote for him over the Irishman. Literally.

No one has won or lost yet...

Date: 2008-05-14 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] illusion-of-joy.livejournal.com
Superdelegate is just another word for unpledged delegate, that is, a delegate who is not locked into a position until the actual vote is taken in August. Unlike pledged delegates, a superdelegate can change his or her mind multiple times before the actual vote (and some have done just that - flip-flopping between Clinton and Obama). So, even though Mr. O has a slim majority of superdelegates who have committed to him, this does not mean a loss for Hillary, as their commitment has about as much weight as any other promise by a common politician. Furthermore, there are still several hundred "uncommitted" superdelegates who are likely sitting on their hands for fear of damaging backlash to their political careers (i.e.: John Kerry committed to Obama despite Massachusetts voting for Hillary, and now he has a primary challenger for his senate seat who, last I checked, is pulling in 40 points in the polls - not a sure thing, but not good for Kerry). With the uncommitted ones still in play, and the committed ones not really having a locked commitment, this thing could easy swing back and forth like an unlatched barn door on a windy day.

I agree that the system needs to be overhauled. For one thing, I am sick of the popular vote not counting (to the extent that the mainstream media is excluding voter totals for MI and FL from reports when the votes still count - only delegates were stripped, the voters still exist). I am also sick of states having undue influence over who the nominee is - yeah, I'm talking about Iowa and New Hampshire. Finally, I want to see caucuses scrapped - this is 2008, not 1789! Everyone should get a chance to vote for their party leaders in a closed primary, so everyone has a voice. Making grandma and her disabled grandson stand around a table in Iowa for hours on end just to make their candidate preference known is not only attempted voter disenfranchisement, but cruel and unusual punishment as well.

McCain would be worth looking into if he brought back the heyday of the Republican party, but I disagree with the Reagan association. For him to get my vote, he'd have to turn into Theodore Roosevelt. Now, THERE was a maverick!

By the way, I still have those Obama buttons. If you're going to be out this weekend, we could meet up and I could give them to you. I have no use for them, and I figure they're better off in the hands of actual supporters.

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